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23 May 2007 @ 02:05 pm
OMG! I Can't Believe This!  
Still speechless. I'm going to have to contact this guy as soon as he comes back from hiatus. Not only is his article well-written and amazingly acurate, play the video at the head of the write-up. Notice anything familiar? *blushes and dies* YEEEES!

Mystery Man on Film: Goodbye, Lois

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sean_montgomery: Clark - Wow!sean_montgomery on May 23rd, 2007 06:19 pm (UTC)
Holy flippin' crap-monkey! Miss Lois Joos... you're POPULAR!! *screams and hugs you*

And dang, that atricle was tough. True, but tough. I have a hard time siding with people about Singer's Lois just because I want to see how Singer takes the story, but... hard to argue with that one...
Lois: Loiskalalanekent on May 24th, 2007 04:46 am (UTC)
Well, it's like we've both said: it's not really Singer's Lois I disagree with, it's more how she was played. I think he could have done a few things differently, but do I completely dislike his Lois? Not at all, or I wouldn't have watched SR and still keep watching. Although I have to say that she was weaker than I would have liked. She's just not fiery the way I prefer my Lois.
sean_montgomery: Me-amusedsean_montgomery on May 24th, 2007 09:54 pm (UTC)
I still say it's all Boosworth's fault. : D
Lois: Don't Look At Mekalalanekent on May 24th, 2007 09:59 pm (UTC)
*whistling, stops for a moment and thinks* Well, mostly. I think she did a good job in several sections of the film, but it was really difficult to take her seriously in others. The roof top scene was beautiful, but it just didn't jibe with the Margot Lois. Again, personal preference comes into play. That's why no flight after the LS interview.
sean_montgomery: Clois - see ya!sean_montgomery on May 24th, 2007 10:07 pm (UTC)
Oh, you and I could talk about this for hours and hours and hours... : D

In fact, we HAVE talked about this for hours and hours and hours... XD

I agree with you. Kate falls SO flat in certain spots, but there are others were she's dead on. The only problem is, those moments are few and far between. I think the rooftop scene works well for the Lois in SR, but there are a few lines where I think to myself, "You could be Lois if you just said that a little differently..." It could be direction and writing, but it could also be Kate.
Lois: OTPkalalanekent on May 24th, 2007 10:11 pm (UTC)
*whistles again* It's Kate and her 'new Lois' idea, I'm sure. Even Margot could have used the lines in another tone and have it come out right.
sean_montgomery: Lois - never said goodbyesean_montgomery on May 24th, 2007 10:16 pm (UTC)
*snort* What new Lois idea? I doubt that not watching any of the older films qualifies as a 'new idea'.

*isn't bitter... really* ; )
Loiskalalanekent on May 24th, 2007 10:22 pm (UTC)
*snort* *is just a touch bitter over it*
sean_montgomery: Clark - o rly?sean_montgomery on May 24th, 2007 10:24 pm (UTC)
*will admit bitter feelings if you will* : D
Loiskalalanekent on May 24th, 2007 10:29 pm (UTC)
So are we mad at them or each other? *raises eyebrow*
sean_montgomery: Lois - gasp!sean_montgomery on May 24th, 2007 10:30 pm (UTC)
Me? Mad at my TWIN? NEVER!

I'd say mad at Kate. Let's just blame everything on Kate. XD
(Anonymous) on May 24th, 2007 11:44 pm (UTC)
Please let the Kate-hate end here!
I do hope you two are kidding about blaming Kate. That's just mean. And there's too much vicious Bosworth-hate already, that and all the other SR-related-hate going around is really beginning to sour the whole fandom. The poor girl did the best she could; remember, this is all new for her, too. Yes, Kate isn't Margot. Yes, Kate's Lois isn't Margot's Lois. And she's not supposed to be. So please stop condemning Kate just because she's not Margot; that's totally unfair to the both of them.
Anissa Royanissa7118 on May 25th, 2007 07:23 am (UTC)
Re: Please let the Kate-hate end here!
Ummmm... couple things.

1) Yeah, Kala and Sean are just kidding around. They do this alot, and I have the 4000 night and weekend minutes on my cell phone to prove it.

2) This is Kala's LJ, fairly deep in the comments, too. If she wants to condemn Bosworth, Buddha, or Buddy the 1st Seeing-Eye Dog, she can. Of course, it's your right to call her on it, but her right to delete your comment if she so chooses.

3) I happen to know that Kala thinks Kate's performance is pretty good overall - she liked her, for the most part. There are just a few points that she dislikes. Of course, those few points make for some entertaining bitchery as the girls complain.

4) The fandom doesn't seem very soured to me. Then again, I mostly only see fanfic authors, which are like fangirls to the nth degree.
sean_montgomery: Lois - never said goodbyesean_montgomery on May 25th, 2007 03:43 pm (UTC)
Re: Please let the Kate-hate end here!
Thanks to Anissa for helping to make a point...

You should understand something here - Kala and I don't hate Bosworth's performance. Actually, we were just watching it last night together, and we agreed on several points where we really enjoyed Kate's take on the character. We know that she's not Margot, and you're right in saying she's not supposed to be; she's NEVER supposed to be for the simple fact that Margot's Lois was never a mother. We're just saying that we doubt that Lois would have lost all that spunk and flair that she had before she was a mother.

Also, if you go back and look, Kala and I do this all the time. And it really IS in jest. I can't be 100% critical about Kate's performance for the simple fact that we just don't know what she knows yet. I'm completely convinced that most of her actions will be made clearer as the next two movies come out. We just like to be nit-picky for a laugh; Mystery Science Theater 3000, if you will.

Yes, we are kidding about blaming Kate. And I'm sure my twin will agree whenever she gets around to commenting here.
✰ ❝elliαniα❞ ĸatrine: ¤Flight of Dream¤elliania on May 23rd, 2007 06:20 pm (UTC)
Writing like this, we could only agree with him. Not just that he's right at several points, but the way he discribe and explain Lois, wow!!
Lois: Clark and Lois Fortresskalalanekent on May 24th, 2007 04:53 am (UTC)
Like I said to Abby above, it's not that I dislike the SR Lois, it's just that I think that they could have changed the character entirely just by changing the way the dialogue and scenes were played. And besides, *grin* Margot's Lois is love. ;)
maaike_fluffy on May 23rd, 2007 07:15 pm (UTC)
Woohoo! Lois Joos atkes over the world. Ok, so maybe not the world. But still. *grins for you* Your reputation as a Margot!Lois Lane fan is now official.

And the icon? Well... It was the only Margot-icon I had.
Lois: Kal-El Smilekalalanekent on May 24th, 2007 04:58 am (UTC)
*grins and hugs you* This is great, but what really amazes me is this. Two of my other videos are at (Come Back Down) 33,841 views and (How Do You Love) 5,574 views, which several links to outside sites. Wow. *amazed* I never expected for anyone to ever notice my stuff at all.
dj_intheuk: Donner Cutdj_intheuk on May 23rd, 2007 09:52 pm (UTC)
That's a really interesting take on Lois Lane and a fair criticism. I have to admit I really appreciated Kidder's Lois Lane even more after the Donner Cut was released - she comes across fantastically in Donner's intended story. :) Donner seemed to able to get great emotional drama from Kidder in playing Lois far more than the director's that followed.

Great fan video of Superman: The Movie and Superman II: Donner Cut. Is it wrong to say it just makes me a tiny bit jealous of Kidder ;) (to put it mildly :P )
Lois: Lois Lane Margotkalalanekent on May 24th, 2007 05:04 am (UTC)
I think the thing with the Donnor Cut is to look at the quality of performance that everyone puts in with him as director versus the Lester. The Lester reshoots really saw what the addition of too much comedy and a director that no one was quite happy to be working for. The DC was filmed before the worst of the stress on the set began. And it shows. Not that the Lester, which was the originally released piece, doesn't have it's merits; it's just that everything about the storyline is SO much better and more believable.
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Lois: Lois Kal-El Kisskalalanekent on May 24th, 2007 05:15 am (UTC)
Re: stardom . . .
But I do not believe you fully subscribe to his opinion of SInger's LL.

Don't get me wrong; I adore SR and I do like Lois, but... *sigh*

No, I don't entirely agree with everything he said, but I do agree with several of his points. I really don't think that the character was played to her full potentialin the film. I also agree that she seemed more sulky than angry. Yes, she was going to be pissed; look at the way he left, but I argue more Kate's performance than the directing or writing. That's why my Lois is both sad and heartbroken as well as resentful and furious. He hurt her in more ways than one. And she means to let him know that. That and I mean to play her as the character that was established, not try to do an entirely new take on Lois.

I think becoming a mom changed everything for LL . . .

I doubt that it would take as much fire out of her as they show in the film, though. Being a mom changes you, but I can't see her changing as much as what was implied in SR. I just hope they give her more fire in MoS. And again, this is just my opinion. Margot's just my all-time favorite version. :D