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08 June 2011 @ 10:56 pm
Ever Have One Of Those Days...  
When you wonder if you're not sure if you more of a hindrance to fandom than a help? If your stuff really is full of Mary Sues and obviously girly plot-lines?  And that everyone just pats you on the head and tells you that you're awesome, but they really just wish you would shut up and go away, you've been here too long?

*sigh* Me, too.

And I hate it.

Maybe it's the meds talking.

For what it's worth, I do love this fandom honestly and hope that I'm just being silly. And that it doesn't look like a stupid cry for attention when it's just honestly how I feel tonight. It sucks to take a good, long, hard look in the mirror and realize that maybe some people out there are right.

I think I'm going to go back to sleep and hope things look better in the morning.

And if a certain extraordinary writer thinks that this is her fault, I'm going to kick her butt. Love, this has nothing to do with you and false starts. What we've been working on has been amazing and I've actually loved every minute of it. I'm grateful that we've had a chance to work on this and that you've trusted the pairing together. ILU and don't take this to heart. *snugs*
On the Verge of: crushedcrushed
athenesolon: Prince Adamathenesolon on June 10th, 2011 12:17 am (UTC)
Girl, I hate to say it but I don't get your concerns over this. How do you think you're a hindrance? That the romance is part of the the whole? If that's the case then count a good portion of the people who have kept Superman alive for most of this time. Remember the "Lois Lane: Girlfriend of Superman" comics (I won't get into the chauvinism of many of them but it's still relevant to what you're saying here?) I believe you've done a much better job of keeping the "mary suishness" out of your stories than myself.

Just because it had "girly plot-lines" doesn't mean they're not real world situations that many-too many-comics gloss over and forget. If they truly addressed them instead of ret-conning things to the bone I think DC (and yes, I include Marvel when it comes to Spiderman on this topic) would be in a much better place overall. That you neither gloss over them nor allow them to overwhelm the overall storyline means that you would (in my opinion) be a much better writer of DC comics that DC itself.
Lois: Lois :: What's In A Namekalalanekent on June 10th, 2011 04:04 am (UTC)
I meant a hinderance to the others in the fandom. I'm always postiing something and it always seems like I'm stepping on some new writer's toes. It's not intentional and it actually hurts sometimes to realize that some person's feelings get crushed. Especially if they're new to the fandom.

No, it's mostly because I take a pretty good beating every once in a while over the fact that the relationship between Lois and Kal-El is always central to my stories and therefore can't be taken seriously by some people. And it hurts. There's meant to be so much more going on here than just Lois and any potential kids, but some people just see that and pretty nastily dismiss the rest of the work for it. And I write Lois the very way I do to avoid the comparisons to the Superman's Girlfriend series. So it's pretty damn frustrating to have the PM that come throuigh about how Lois and Kala are Mary Sues and that Jason is a waste of a character. It's enough to make you just give up and quit, regardless of the other 'verses.

We strive SO hard for realism, in showing that there really are consequences for one's actions, whether this is based on a movie and comic book or not, so that means a LOT coming from you. Believe me when I say that I've gone on this long for readers like you that GET IT. Even more so when you mention the reboot. I appreciate that like you wouldn't believe. ♥

Edited at 2011-06-10 04:06 am (UTC)
athenesolon: STM Impish smileathenesolon on June 10th, 2011 06:15 pm (UTC)
Believe me, you were never stepping on toes here. I may have had ideas to play with them but they never gelled right for me to feel comfortable posting them. No feelings hurt either on this end. I probably would have posted a larger story at some point if I didn't have a combination of multiple fandoms that I like (and yes, attempt to write) as well as a rl that requires me to do research for hours a day (the life of a museum staffer I have to say, always doing the research necessary to build a new exhibit.)

No, it's mostly because I take a pretty good beating every once in a while over the fact that the relationship between Lois and Kal-El is always central to my stories and therefore can't be taken seriously by some people.

*rolls her eyes* Then they haven't looked at the amount of books that are sold and the demographics that are currently popular are they? While comic books may be overwhelmed with the action (sometimes to the detriment of the "overall" on occasion) the books that sell the most? Romance followed close behind by sci-fi/fantasy. That's you don't allow the romance to overwhelm the action means that the story would be more likely to be placed in a fantasy/Sci-Fi section than the romance (which there is plenty of action-oriented romances these days as well.) Just because a storyline has a prominent romance (that does NOT overwhelm the primary storyline) doesn't mean that it's a romance.

Slightly OT but still relevant to this conversation: Have you ever read "Love and Capes? While Abby is definitely not Lois and Mark is not really Clark (or Kal-El in the literal sense of him being an alien) I think it still goes to show that what you are doing here still works in my opinion. It's done very well for itself, getting picked up by a boutique comic book company that has been printing it recently. It focuses on the relationships but leaves most of the superhero stuff on the sidelines. The fact that you don't do that (that you still have the superheroic situations front and center) is a strength in your writing.
routhfan1routhfan1 on June 10th, 2011 12:46 am (UTC)
Um, you win all kinds of frikkin awards...yes, everyone is just being nice to you. Um no!

I wonder that about my writting all the time. Is probably more true for me than your works. I don't win much of anything, but then again, I don't write to win anything, I write because I like what I write, and I post it...and if anyone out there likes it, great. If not, I don't really care.
Lois: Lois :: Blushkalalanekent on June 10th, 2011 03:52 am (UTC)
My darling, don't take this the wrong way, but winning awards is wonderful and terrible at the same time. On one hand, I feel so special and excited that my work was loved and it means a lot. On the other hand, sometimes it's because yours is the only name they recognize or the only one in the section of fandom you write. Sometimes it's a popularity contest and I don't ever want to win for that reason. And sometimes I worry that some awards come out to just that. It can be a dual-edged sword.

To be honest, we try to write the same way. I'm writing the stories that would like to read. These are what I wish had been waiting for me when I first came into fandom fifteen years ago. I'm not sure my writing is up to the par I would have liked, but I do try. That's exactly how you should go about it. Write for yourself and care about your material. That makes you the best writer out there. All it takes is love for your story. The rest is just a bonus.

Edited at 2011-06-10 03:53 am (UTC)