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15 November 2010 @ 02:06 pm
Gacked From xenokattz And Has Me Curious....  
I love this one. Really, have at it, guys. Nothing makes me work better than needing to know the answers to questions that need them. Makes me plot and plan even harder.

Ask me writing questions, should you happen to have any!

I think it would be fun to talk about stories, but the usual memes are like, "What happens next?" "Tell me about Character A?" What isn't so much talking about stories as it is writing more of a story. But you know how sometimes you read something and you're like, "I got ___ out of this story, I wonder if that right?" or "What on earth was ____ supposed to be?" and it's too awkward to ask the author? Now you could totally ask!

I've heard people say that writing is hard because you have to make decisions, but we never really talk about the decisions we make with stories or why we make them. We talk about plot bunnies, but not about how we actually turn them into a story.

And it seems like a lot more fun to do that than to do working.

So, if you wanted, ask me questions! Anon commenting is (always) on, if you feel shy. Or ask your flist to ask you questions.

What were you trying to do [here]? Why did you decide to ____? This is what I thought about xyz, is that what you were going for? What made you write ____? And so on.
 
 
On the Verge of: thoughtfulthoughtful
 
 
 
Katt: SV: Home (Bloodlines trilogy)xenokattz on November 15th, 2010 07:15 pm (UTC)
Jason & Kala are adorkable & I love the whole Kent-Lane-White-Lang extended family but seeing as how SR only introduced one child, what made you decide to go for twins for this fic? Was there something in particular you wanted to show regarding any of the canon characters by introducing an original one?
Anissa Roy: Writer: Plot bunniesanissa7118 on November 15th, 2010 07:33 pm (UTC)
Welllll, this may be Lois' show, but I'm gonna jump in and answer.

Lois originally had the idea for this story when she was 12 years old and saw Superman II. At the end where Lois asks for a hamburger at 9 AM, a lightbulb went on over Lois the writer's head. "Aha, she's pregnant!" And that idea, coupled with her dissatisfaction with III and IV, caused her to come up with an idea for Superman V, The Beginning of the End. She told that story to her younger twin sisters and actually made them believe it was a real DC story arc they'd never seen.

In The Beginning of the End, Superman left the planet and was gone for 14 years. In the meantime, Lois gave birth to twins she named Jonathan and Kala. They were twins both because Lois the writer had twin sisters, and because a set of twins will never have Kal-El's issue of being alone. (Superman had no family except an AI of his father, and that was in the Fortress, far from the rest of his life. The twins always had each other.)

The main thrust of that story dealt with Superman's return. So when the film Superman Returns came out, showing Lois with a kid (whose name started with J, even) Lois the writer experienced a huuuuuuge surge of plot bunnies. She wanted to write at least some of that story she'd been crafting in the back of her mind since she was 12.

So she wrote the prologue and posted it at BlueTights' The Planet Forum, titling it All That Was. Lois the writer had toyed with the idea of using her original name ideas, but in the end she renamed her character Jonathan to match the movie's Jason. That first little scene got enough attention and encouragement that Lois decided to actually write the story, and title it Little Secrets based on that one track on the movie soundtrack. It was originally conceived as a 150,000 word fic, to run through the events of SR as they would have been with twins, and with Reeveverse characterizations (our Lois is Margot's snarky badass). The intention of writing LS was just to set up for the REAL story, which would be Heirs, and cover the same time period as Lois' original idea The Beginning of the End: the teenage years of the supertwins. I got involved around Chp 5, when we first showed Clark's perspective.

Obviously LS ran waaaaaaaaaaay over our limit, becoming an epic tale all its own. And in the process, we wound up playing with the idea of what makes a family. Having Kala in the story made it more than just "the son becomes the father" - we got to show father-son interaction, mother-son interaction, mother-daughter interaction, father-daughter interaction, and of course, the bond between the twins themselves.

Mainly by giving Jason a twin, we didn't want to make him exactly like his dad. Jason has never been alone, not even in the womb. From the moment of his conception there's always been someone like him, someone who knows what he's been through and where he came from because she was there. And it was a sister instead of a brother so that she wouldn't be exactly like him - a little strife is always fun.
Katt: SV: Home (Bloodlines trilogy)xenokattz on November 15th, 2010 09:39 pm (UTC)
Of course an epic story would have epic beginnings. *L* I now remembering reading/extrapolating the whole idea of Jason & Kala never being alone from what I read so far. That loneliness has always been a part of my understanding of Clark/Kal/Superman in various degrees of importance.

How do you (either of you) think the family interactions would have differed if one of the kids was older or younger by years instead of minutes?
Anissa Roy: Writer: Wordsmithanissa7118 on November 16th, 2010 06:42 am (UTC)
I'd like Lois to answer this too, because I want to know what she thinks of it. :D

Some of the interactions would be the same, at least if Jason were the older - the way it is now, he does think of himself as the big brother and is very protective of his little sister (by a minute and a half! Kala reminds us) because of that. But even if he were younger, I think he might still be protective of her, a little bit of ancient caveman in his genes telling him: "You man. You bigger, stronger. You protect woman."

The sense of not being alone wouldn't change much. I'm an only child, Lois has siblings, and having an older or younger sibling definitely changes things. Even when Clark was being raised by the Kents, he was an only child. When he discovered his heritage, he felt more alone. If there were two kids, even a few years apart, they would still have someone else very much like them, still wouldn't be as alone as he was.

One thing that would change is the twins' sense of identity. Twins do get marked out as special or different, if not by their parents then by the rest of the world. For a while they're content to be considered as a unit, and then they go through a long period of trying to figure out who they are, and lots of that is contrasting themselves with their twin - which is why Jason wears jeans and flannel and Kala is goth. They got lucky in that they're boy and girl, one very obvious distinction right there, so they weren't quite pathological about making themselves different enough to be recognized for themselves instead of just as one of the twins.

I think that some of the ... epicness, for lack of a better word, would be lost if they weren't twins. And some of the closeness. But I'm an only child (well, I have half siblings, but they are 10 years older and live 1,000 miles away, so they don't really count), so what do I know about the bonds between siblings?

On a practical note, changing the age difference between the twins would change the plot. If we want to keep the main plotline of him leaving the planet, then either Clark left the planet after having gotten Lois pregnant with their SECOND kid (which makes him a jerk), or one of the kids isn't his (which makes for more drama than I wanted to deal with), or one was conceived after his return (which puts more than 5 years between them).

The only one of those scenarios I'd want to touch is the last one, and I read somewhere that having a gap of more than 5 yrs between siblings leaves them largely out of touch with each other. Like, he's in 5th grade, she's in kindergarten - he looks after her, she maybe idolizes him. Maybe he teases her a little, maybe she's a brat sometimes, but they move in slightly different spheres. Or she's 15, he's 10 - she's a foot taller than him, putting on makeup and dreaming about kissing boys, and he still thinks girls have cooties.

We got some of that with having Kristin be 8 years younger - the twins are almost mini-parents to her. She's a little kid, they're big kids, and that's how it'll be until Kristin's about 18 or 20.

Lois: Heirs :: Twins :: Mischief Managedkalalanekent on November 16th, 2010 07:14 am (UTC)
I'm not reading Anissa's response so as to not repeat.

I really think the difference might end up pretty huge. A lot of twins' interaction is based on the fact that they've been constantly together since birth. They've shared so many moments and experiences at the same time. They have the same allergies. They can finish each other's sentences at times. Theyarethisclose.

If they were years apart, it would change a lot about their personalities. I don't know if they would still be as close, especially since they would have to be a minimum of six years apart. One child would have been born while Dad was away, one when he got back. Which would mean that only one of them would have had Dad their whole life. One would have just been with Mom for those years. That would make for a little jealousy at the least in that one would have Dad from the start, not to mention the differences in parenting. The older one would likely be more than a little upset to see Lois and Richard split up and things may not have gone as well as canon shows.

Being that far apart also would change them, too. Kids with that much age usually aren't as close or the younger will have the older sibling in more than a little awe. Six years really is an age gap when you reach a certain age. Your just starting to really grow up when your brother or sister is very nearly an adult. Jason would be a very good older brother, but even more over-protective if she was 11 when he's 17. There's also the fact that Kala gets to know their dad from day one, which would hurt Jason because he'd feel like he was the unwanted one. He would also be a lot closer to Richard and might just resent his real father meddling in his life and his mother after all that time away without a word.

Kala would likely be in awe of him, but jealous because he'd get to do everything she wants to do first. He'd have the powers and be a hero before hers really strongly manifest. Also, Jason got Mom all to himself and Lois may have been a little less freaked over one baby, so they may have travelled on more international stories when she had him. That would make her a little more jealous, also. There's also the 'two dads' issue to think about.

I think it would be somewhat the same way if you flipped it. No matter how you look at it, one would miss out and the other would wonder how much better the other one has it. Although I think Kala would be a bit more egotistical as the elder because she doesn't have some else to balance her out; then again, she would have had six years alone with Mom, so she might just have settled down enough by the time Dad came back.

Wow. It's crazy to think of how many things change just by making them something other than twins. Fascinating to think about, but sad, too.
Obsessed fangirl: Lois and Clark - STM iconic Supermanbabettew54 on November 15th, 2010 08:03 pm (UTC)
Ohh, I have to think about this one!! You know I want to pick your brain!!

ETA: Any stories coming up with 'just the kids' ? Specifically, Jason and Elise ? I wanna hear more about him and his 'adjustments' and dealing with what happened in "Heirs"?!
I'd love to read that.


Edited at 2010-11-16 07:24 am (UTC)
Lois: Heirs :: Twins :: Mischief Managedkalalanekent on November 16th, 2010 09:33 am (UTC)
Well, we're not going to play it too close to SV, so expect Jason's journey to be a little different than expected. But he and Kala will have some oneshots coming up together and seperately. There will be fic with he and Elise and some with he and someone else, there will be fic with Kala, Sebast and their band, there will be fic with Kala and her various love interests, but all of it will also have some of the family in it. I don't want too much of the OCs on their own.

Not too much with the romance, although it will be covered, because I just can't do that alone. But rest assured, you will see what's coming in the future for them in the next few months and we'll see what they are to each other and where it will go, if it goes any further, in Blood Will Tell. ;) Let's just say that there's a lot happening with the twins in the future.
Obsessed fangirl: Lois and Clark - STM iconic Supermanbabettew54 on November 16th, 2010 03:15 pm (UTC)
It all sounds very exciting..!!! :D
Grace: Comic; CKJr; Hoverrepmetsyrrah on November 16th, 2010 12:07 am (UTC)
I bet you can guess what I'm going to ask but I'll ask it anyway :P Any more IAL coming? Or is it all wrapped up for good?
Anissa Roy: Writer: Muse Benderanissa7118 on November 16th, 2010 06:12 am (UTC)
I *think* it's wrapped, at least for the foreseeable future. We have tossed around the idea of coming back to it for a final oneshot, set when that pair of twins is older. I have to warn you though, we've got several other things on the burner that need to be worked on first. But if a plot bunny bites, we might do it - I just wouldn't count on it.
Grace: Comic; CKJr; T-shirtrepmetsyrrah on November 16th, 2010 06:17 am (UTC)
Aww, can't say I'm not disappointed but I certainly understand, I've had people ask for more of certain fics but I know the feeling of when it's done, it's done.
athenesolonathenesolon on November 16th, 2010 02:20 am (UTC)
What made you consider writing a tale with Bruce and Margot!Lois dating? :D
Lois: So Close :: Bruce Lois :: Partykalalanekent on November 16th, 2010 06:24 pm (UTC)
Well, I had always thought that it would have made sense to do a World's Finest crossover back in the days of Keaton and Reeve, but it seems that DC was too stupid to have realized it. Which is a bitter, bitter shame. So I set out to write a fic that both fixed the 'we can't be together' dilemma following SIV, tried to marry Bruce and his canon after Batman Returns into it, wound up pulling Batman Begins and The Dark Knight canon into it, only reversing it, and deciding that the best way to get Clark's attention was to put the two of them together. The only bad thing was? I wound up going with Bale!Bruce and not Keaton!Bruce because of peer pressure.

The main reason that Bruce and Lois fit together in that fic is that they are a lot alike in personality and wits. There's also the fact that they're both attractive people and challenge one another. And there's the fact that they're both running from pasts they can't change and loves they can't have. It's not true love, but they see what the past has done and they've trying to protect one another. They know it's not forever.

Also, Clark moves on with Lana, so it's only fair and you and I both know she's not just going to sit around and pine for him when that happens. And this with Bruce is just the wake-up call he needs.
januaried: emote + lovejanuaried on November 16th, 2010 03:47 pm (UTC)
Just out of curiosity, how did you find LJ in the first place and decide to make it a home? I remember you saying you were mostly on boards back in the day.
Lois: Lois :: Mischeviouskalalanekent on November 16th, 2010 06:09 pm (UTC)
*points to htbthomas*

You guys only have Mom to blame that I'm here in the first place. She had a point in that I could finally do more with the look of things and reach more people. Reposting it all was a hell of a job (I think I was like fifteen chapters in when I came here), but I don't regret it at all. And honestly, it was the best move I ever made. :D