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14 September 2010 @ 05:19 pm
In Which Lois Is 'Splodey and Fandom-Canon Defensive  
There are days where you just have to walk away from the meta or your brain will explode from sheer aggravation. GAH!

I'll stick to my own theories, thanks.

*tries to stop twitching*

ETA: When discussing Movieverse, please remember that this is not Smallville, Lois & Clark, or the comics. Why? Because both Smallville and L&C came AFTER the RV canon. Therefore, your canon came after the one established in the film series. So it's not the same. Also, the comics canon has been rebooted so many times now that it's almost invalid. It mostly contradicts itself these days unless you're using a specific era. Please don't try to use post-Bronze Age canon onto something that came 20 years before and before no less than two changes of canon. And even Bronze Age can be iffy.  

I don't push my canon on you; I would appreciate the same from fellow fans of fandom.

 
 
On the Verge of: irateirate
 
 
 
januaried: fandom + superman + chris is dr sexyjanuaried on September 14th, 2010 09:21 pm (UTC)
Not in reference to my post, right? XD
Lois: Lois :: Official Office Hot Chickkalalanekent on September 14th, 2010 09:23 pm (UTC)
Got this right before running out the door.

Oh, no! Not yours at all. You know I ADORE your essay!

No, no, it's a few other theories floating around out there. There are days when I'm glad we have a fandom mostly to ourselves. And that we pwn the research. And it's more than just in this fandom. *facepalm*
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saavikam77: Clark_Our_Secretsaavikam77 on September 14th, 2010 11:33 pm (UTC)
I'm to the point where I pull my own canon from multiple sources and discard what I don't like, so I mostly roll my eyes at canon arguments these days. XD And this, of course, explains the insanity I've inflicted upon the Aftermath universe. :p

*snugs you tightly, passes chamomile tea*
Lois: Lois :: Drama Llamakalalanekent on September 14th, 2010 11:38 pm (UTC)
Is it wrong that this shit of 'I'm right and you're wrong' makes me nuts? If you don't like it, DON'T READ IT! Christ, how difficult is that? *repeated headdesk*

GRRR!

*sighs and growls in frustration*

I'm half expecting to hear BS about the Helicopter Rescue Snapshot and the current chapter for canon issues next! I mean, DAMN!
saavikam77: Lex Cut a Bitchsaavikam77 on September 14th, 2010 11:43 pm (UTC)
Oh man, is it more nasty comments in the Pit? Gods, why can't people just get a grip, already!? O_o
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athenesolon: Lois knocking on Perry's doorathenesolon on September 15th, 2010 01:22 am (UTC)
No, not really. Although I have to admit to being guilty of being one of those people griping about someone's interpretation of canon.
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Kattxenokattz on September 15th, 2010 02:29 am (UTC)
IIRC. Maybe it's because I've been collecting comics for almost 20 years now & have read comics that date to the 70's/80's when everything & your mother got rebooted. You can't survive in the Marvel World unless you believe "They get better" nor in the DC world unless you chant "Reboot." And you pretty much have to do that Retcon Havewavey Dance for any character created before the 80's. *L*

Unless I'm writing comics!fic about a specific arc, I pick & choose my "canon." If there really IS a canon. There is no spoon, Neo.
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clarks_girlclarks_girl on September 15th, 2010 03:36 am (UTC)
Clark: But but but that’s terrible

Perry: That’s why their called terrorist Kent!

Holy Superman II Batman!! I can't get this out of my head since hearing on the news this morning the Eiffel Tower had a bomb threat against it. Just keeps going round and round and round.
Lois: Lois :: Comics :: Where Is She Now?kalalanekent on September 15th, 2010 04:23 pm (UTC)
I know! I about died when I saw it yesterday morning! januaried and I were like "Whhhhhaaaaat?! XD"
athenesolon: Theater is Drama/ a Tragedyathenesolon on September 15th, 2010 10:15 pm (UTC)
????????? !!!!!!!!!! I had never heard that!
Obsessed fangirl: Lois and Clark - STM iconic Supermanbabettew54 on September 15th, 2010 04:03 pm (UTC)
What a mess! I'm sort of glad I haven't read the comics, but I'm confused enough as it is! *hugs*
Lois: Lois :: Sadkalalanekent on September 15th, 2010 04:19 pm (UTC)
It just gets SO frustrating! *hugs back*
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Gracerepmetsyrrah on September 16th, 2010 10:39 pm (UTC)
At first this didn't occur to me but after reading some of your comments I can't help wonder if this was about a post I made a few days ago?

Hope I'm just paranoid.
Lois: Kal-El :: Have Peacekalalanekent on September 18th, 2010 08:44 pm (UTC)
It was a little and it wasn't a little. There's been a lot of discussion on and off lately around the fandom and that was probably the third entry I saw that day. It's just frustrating for me because the canon that SR is based on is RV and I'm been in RV a LONG time. This is why I rarely discuss meta. I love you, don't get that impression that I don't, but we just don't see eye-to-eye on that stuff for the most part. And it's not just you at all.

Can you understand what I mean?
Grace: Comic; S&CKJr; Talkrepmetsyrrah on September 18th, 2010 10:06 pm (UTC)
Huh, I thought you might disagree with that post but I assumed if it really bugged you you'd comment there, not in a somewhat sharply worded public post on your LJ (I did cut it specifically so it wasn't going to be shoved in the face of the f-listers who didn't agree). Even if it wasn't entirely about me a 'I disagree with you but don't want to debate on it' on that post would have been appreciated before I started worrying I'd somehow unintentionally really pissed you off. (I certainly wasn't going to get into it with someone who didn't want to have a big debate/argument but with people like Athene I had fun debating it)

I wasn't really talking about one canon over the others either so if I did mix them up (did I?) I didn't mean to, just about whether an AI that could pass the Turning Test could be called a person as the Fortress doesn't change much over the different media ('cept in L&C but that wasn't important).

So I do know what you're saying but I hope you understand why I was a bit upset to read some of this stuff that really seemed directed at me but have it come from a public post rather than just a comment on my post that it related to. Even though it wasn't all at me the little that was would have been nice to hear straight from you.
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