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06 March 2010 @ 04:42 pm
athenesolon's Superman Meme  

Who is the "primary" identity of Clark Kent/Kal-El/Superman to you and why?
I take option two. And I could do an entire essay on this. My version is pre-Modern Age, which is when they decided that Clark now needed to be the primary identity. Myself, I don't think that's fair to the character. Clark is who he was raised as and that aspect of his mindset is vitally important. Also important is where he's from and the actual species he is. Which is Kryptonian, an alien. He's a child of two words. Yet, he's neither and both. Kal-El is the core in that, in the end, it's the only time that he can fully express both Clark and Superman. Who he is is comprised of all of his experience, in and out of costume.  That said, I love Clark just as much as Superman. Clark is NOT an afterthought.

And there you go.

Which Superman is "your" Superman (can include comics and cartoons)?
Christopher Reeve, although I am more than happy to include Brandon Routh. Chris would have been so proud.

What is your first memory of Superman?
I have very vague memories of going to see SII in the theater with my uncle. I was about one or two. That might be from my uncle discussing it. I didn't get into it again until I was about eight or so. I think I saw it on HBO one night at a friend's and that was it. Love at second sight. :D

Who is your favorite character in the Superman Universe (if it's Superman, who is your second favorite)?
XD Should I EVEN answer this, guys? Because I think it's a no-brainer.

If you were to give Lois a superpower, what would it be and why?
Are you trying to tell me she doesn't have any? She's the Goddamn Lois Lane. And no, I won't. She totally doesn't need them. Although maybe flight. I'm sure it would be enjoyable for a time.

Golden Age, Silver Age, Modern Age- which is your favorite and why?
I've stopped reading the Modern Age comics because I've become more and more disenchanted with their mixed-up continuity. Not a fan of the majority of the Silver Age either. So, I'd say late-Silver Age and early-Modern Age. Late 70s to mid-80s. 

Post an image of your all time Favorite version of Superman
Oh, God. I have to narrow this down? *whine* Oh, okay. Let's look.

Well, hi, there, Kal-El!
On the Verge of: thoughtfulthoughtful
Ferd: Batman hoodieferdalump on March 7th, 2010 12:23 am (UTC)
" She's the Goddamn Lois Lane."

Lois: Lois :: Laughterkalalanekent on March 7th, 2010 02:07 am (UTC)
I ought to admit that I've been calling her this for years. After I saw it attributed to Bruce, I couldn't resist. Although it's a spoiler, Lois and Bruce mock this at each other in Heirs continuity, most especially at the end of the fic. I guess it shows that I have a jones for platonic Brois in my 'verse.

I gotta get a Goddamn Lois Lane icon.
athenesolon: Lois and Pulitzerathenesolon on March 7th, 2010 12:34 am (UTC)
Are you trying to tell me she doesn't have any? She's the Goddamn Lois Lane. And no, I won't. She totally doesn't need them.

I'm only slightly regretting that question because when I went and started researching feminism in the 70's I found this quote and I realized she's already Superwoman. Take this quote from Women on the Move: American Women of the 1970s:

It was the “superwoman” image that reigned in the seventies, and ironically, it was attributed to the feminist movement…” (emphasis added)

After I read that I started laughing uproariously and couldn't stop for the next fifteen minutes. Well I guess she is his equal in his mind (hence why he would be so attracted to her). If you want to read the full quote, I have it up on my journal if you're curious.

Oh also, have you seen the link to the screenplay I have up on my journal? It's been rumored that it was one that Reeve wanted to be in at one point (and honestly it probably would have been a perfect one for him, the depth and range of the actions and emotions they put in there for both Lois and Kal-El would have been amazing to see on the big screen). It's a good one to read and I think it might highlight what we mean by being the child of two worlds.
Lois: Clois :: Keep Holding Onkalalanekent on March 7th, 2010 02:52 am (UTC)
*LOL* Okay, this is the part where I don't admit that I have a copy of that around here. I have a couple more, too. Research, I does it. ;)

I had read of the script, but hadn't had the opportunity to read it before now. As little use as I have for the boys over at SC, it's not a surprise that they had a chance to get their hands on it; they're pretty chummy with Ilya. That I have no love of Ilya and his ilk is no surprise.

The story, though, I really liked. It could do with a little tightening, but I like the dilemmas it brought up and the chance to show Lois as a hero. Also a fan of how the Clois was handled. I could see Christopher being interested and wouldn't have been surprised if Margot had been down with it as well. Unfortunately, she and Ilya can't stand each other, so she likely wouldn't have been the Lois. If the money and the time were spent on it, we could have had a beautiful wrap-up of the series there. Oh, the missed chances.

That said, I may gack a few jewels for the LS-'verse. Nothing big, but a few shinies to hint back to it. One of my little additions to the series coming up was mentioned twice, so now I have to use it. Won't be until the end of the Heirs series, though.
athenesolon: Lois knocking on Perry's doorathenesolon on March 7th, 2010 03:17 am (UTC)
All I can say to the Margot thing is that I would have to hope she would have been able to put her issues aside for Reeve and the character (which it seems like she has and had a lot of love for). The again it never got made (and probably never will *sad sigh*) so I guess it doesn't matter anyway.
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Lois: Lois :: Badasskalalanekent on March 7th, 2010 02:54 am (UTC)
Lois Lane don't need no stinking superpowers! :D

*hugs* Hey, Big Sister! I promise to come by and comment soon. We're both been livin' la vida loca lately, huh?
dj_intheuk: Christopher Reevedj_intheuk on March 7th, 2010 01:37 am (UTC)
I am highly amused by the fact that of all the meme's I've read so far practically the same Reeve image is chosen. And in choosing mine I swear I hadn't looked at other people's choices....
athenesolon: STM Impish smileathenesolon on March 7th, 2010 02:50 am (UTC)
Mine doesn't!
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Lois: Kal-El :: Laughkalalanekent on March 7th, 2010 03:05 am (UTC)
Those of us that chose RV, definitely. He's SO amazing in that scene! And same here! *high-fives*
Grace: SR; Clark; S Glassesrepmetsyrrah on March 7th, 2010 03:14 am (UTC)
Lol, I disagree with you on the first one but it's all good! Imagine how boring it would be if we all agreed on everything anyway :P

She's the Goddamn Lois Lane


And that is a gorgeous pic.
Lois: Lois :: What's In A Namekalalanekent on March 7th, 2010 03:59 am (UTC)
I think the disagreements really come from what version of what we grew up reading or watching. For me, it was always the films and the cartoons, both of which have canon for there being a core that's both Clark and Superman combined. 'Kal-El' is a catch-all in that it's actually one of his names and it's a name that almost no other human knows beyond Lois (in RV canon). Also, Lois has a unique relationship with him, which I think justifies the nickname. For the record, everyone else human in our 'verses calls him 'Clark'.

I was never 100% down with the 80s reboot in the comics. I love that they brought him a little more down-to-earth and that things with he and Lois progressed as they should, but I think taking the active focus off both sides of his heritage and focused so hard on his 'Clark' life is what soured me. That and they can't make up their mind on his history...

*makes face* I'll stick with the classics and keep Kal-El.

And, as much as I sound like I'm blowing raspberries at everyone else's canon, I'm not. I just never was a fan. But to each their own. And I'm happy for you! I'll just stick to RV canon, though.

HEE! Is absolutely true. Totally need that iconed. :D

And he is, isn't he? *snuggles her woobie*
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Obsessed fangirl: Lois and Clark - STM so closebabettew54 on March 7th, 2010 03:21 am (UTC)
I agree with answer #1 !! He is all of those characters, not only the farm boy ... Clark Kent.

Love the pic you chose. Very nice! :D:D
Lois: Lois :: Lois Lane Uniform Topkalalanekent on March 7th, 2010 03:40 am (UTC)
I'm glad that makes sense to you. I just had to have this conversation with a fan last week where she commented that she hoped the Heirs realized that he was 'Clark' underneath, and not Kal-El, soon. I was shocked. Seriously? After this many stories and two epics, I think my Lois knows who her husband is by now. The Clark/Kal-El debate has nothing to do with them problems in the fic. I seriously think I've established my canon by now. *headdesk*

:D I've been swoony over that one for years. *snuggles her hero*

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Obsessed fangirl: Lois and Clark - STM flying staresbabettew54 on March 7th, 2010 04:04 am (UTC)
I seriously think I've established my canon by now. *headdesk*

Of course, you have. You have to wonder what folks are thinking sometimes or if they're thinking at all. This 'fan' should know who Clark is by now. *shakes head at people*!!

That's why your answer to #1 makes so much sense to me and a lot of folks tooll!


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